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I've had lots of questions about Karma Points recently, so I figured I'd post about it here so everyone can benefit (and hopefully I'll get less questions ).

The karma is not something Admin has been touching. The points you earn are from fellow members only.

And actually it's a feature that comes with vbulletin. We did not customize it. In fact I barely paid attention to it and never delved into how it works much. But basically, you can vote on a person's post. For positive votes, you get more karma. Negative votes reduce your karma.

The more Karma you have, the more karma you can bestow. The Karma Power relates to how many karma points you can give others...

Hope this answers all lingering questions...


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The more Karma you have, the more karma you can bestow. The Karma Power relates to how many karma points you can give others...
Really? I thought Karma power had to do with either 1.) how much you post or 2.) the length of time you have been a member.

I know of someone who became a member the same week as me (though I joined a few days before her) but she has, like, double the posts that I do. She has a Karma power of 2 and my karma power is only 1 - even though my Karma points are double hers.

So I have double the karma points, she has double the posts but she is the one with double the karma power. I just assumed I had to post more (be more active in the DT community ) to get more karma power...

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OK, I just looked it up to be sure and it turns out to be a lot more complicated than that and you are right that posts are related....

Here are the factors, in no particular order, that go into Karma Power:

Date Joined
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Amount of Karma you have
Minimum post count before you have any karma power
Minimum Karma points you need before you have any karma power

Then there are limits to how much karma you can give in a day.
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you need to spread around a certain amount of karma before you can hit the same user again. In other words, there's only so much damage one person can do to you. So if you have a bad score, it likely came from multiple sources..


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All of that makes perfect sense. Well... I know the minimum is more than 300 posts!

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Ahhhhhh, all very interesting. I never knew what it was for, or how to get it, or how to use it!

Looks like I have 5 karma votes I can give to someone. Hmmmmm.


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Ahhhhhh, all very interesting. I never knew what it was for, or how to get it, or how to use it!
That's one thing I like about this forum - people aren't obsessed with the karma. Nobody really talks about it, people don't troll for it or make a big deal when they give it. It's nice. If that kind of stuff was going on, it would make karma completely pointless. (IMHO)

The only thing I think would make the karma thing better would be if they had a third catergory called "Karma Votes." I mean, a person could have 40 Karma Points but maybe only 3 people with high Karma Power gave them to her. Meanwhile, someone elase only has 25 Karma Points but 15 people with a Karma Power of 1 gave them to her. With a category like Karma Votes, you could see how often people give a person karma.

There, I am done talking about Karma!

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Re: Karma Points
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I just tweaked the settings a bit to reflect our forum better.


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Re: Karma Points
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That's some tweak Gilbert. Cool! Now I've got a lot more karma votes to hand out. Gotta start using that more and pay it forward.


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I'll say!! I... I feel... I feel so... Powerful!! J/K!! LOL

I looked around - everyone's karma power is way up - Gil, what did you do?! (She asked in her sweetest southern accent, eye lashes batting furiously )

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- Gil, what did you do?! (She asked in her sweetest southern accent, eye lashes batting furiously )



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Aren't ya, Gil.


I'd like to think so. But then there are lots of things I'd like

Sadie, I changed the thresholds and minimums. I think it was originally designed for gaming and chat type sites where people posted like crazy. So some thresholds were rarely met.

Ooops, scratch that, now I remember who developed the system... which vbulletin later bought... and renamed "reputation" ... from it's original name "Karma Hack"....

Believe it or not, a talented developer who has a site about weed wrote it Can't remember the name of the site now. Shrooms.com. No....
It'll come back to me...
He has a HUGE site LOL. Seems lots of people like to talk about weed and compare notes.


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Re: Karma Points
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I'm on another message board where the karma is known as "frubals"....that board has turned it into a game and has increased comraderie and friendships amongst the board as people are hitting the 100K frubal mark!! It's silly, but it works for that board.

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It's silly, but it works for that board.



People around here have only recently started noticing that karma was being passed out on a regular basis...


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Re: Karma Points
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I noticed the karma points, but I didn't use them here as it didn't seem to be part of the "community culture" and (as people are writing) aren't paid attention to anyway.

But if people will use it, then it can be a lot of fun!

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We've got a major upgrade coming up in several weeks with new features. We'll be emphasizing some things and de-emphasizing others. While finishing all this up, I'd love to get feedback on what you like and want to see more of and what you don't like and what you'd like to see less of.

TBF,
If you can share your ideas on making karma fun, I'll be happy to try it. Where does that site show the karma? In the actual threads or in the control panel like we do?

Do they use "usernotes" as well? No one seems to be using them here or aware they are there. And I never really focused on testing it much, so perhaps you don't even see the "Add usernote" when you look at the profile. When configuring the options, we set it up so that users can post notes to admin about other users. But I'm open to setting it up differently, maybe to even work in concert with Karma?

From my side, I would love to see karma be useful to the end consumer. To be a way where our members can help others...


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Speaking only for myself Gilbert...

I really would like to be able to send a private message to members here - not just vendors. It's just so quick and easy on other sites that use it. But I understand if you have some reason behind why it is disabled.

I never knew what Karma points even were or how to use them until last week.

And I have no idea what "usernotes" are.


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Speaking only for myself Gilbert...

I really would like to be able to send a private message to members here - not just vendors. It's just so quick and easy on other sites that use it. But I understand if you have some reason behind why it is disabled.

I never knew what Karma points even were or how to use them until last week.

And I have no idea what "usernotes" are.


On people's Profile Page, there should be a link which says "Add Usernote". If you don't see it there's probably a switch somewhere I need to go to enable it.

Regarding the PM's, you can PM each other unless you have it disabled. You can turn it on or off here


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Learning something new everyday...and I thought I knew this site so well!! I guess I need to send some Karma peoples way....and my name is not EARL!! LOL~~Ronda

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O.k...now I have complex as I have the least Karma points on this thread. It makes me wonder who may disapprove of my post(s)...oh well. ~Ronda

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I have the least Karma points on this thread. ~Ronda


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Hi Gil;

Wasn't private PM between consumers disabled to prevent shilling and other problems that had appeared on the forum?

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Irish be very good to me...I will be sending some Karma your way Thanks IRISH!~Ronda

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Regarding the PM's, you can PM each other unless you have it disabled.


I'm sure there will be many users happy to have this feature back.
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Quote this post and reply to it Post#25 @ 04-17-06 , 02:51 AM


Gil you asked for suggestions...
We've had many changes and tweaks on the forum, and the written information about them, in some cases, is a couple of tweaks behind, so I'd like to suggest a change to the Greet New Members Forum.
It ought to be changed to something like Greeting New Members--so that it becomes the Welcome Mat or Entrance for newbies or a refresher for anyone wanting to know how something works--especially if things are going to be different with the next generation forums.

In no particular order, it should have the "what and where" of navigating DiamondRing;
* What is Karma and all it's power
* How to do attachments- a step-by-step
* How to post an ad in the Jewelry Classified
* How to find the Diamond and Jewelry Databases
* What, where, and how to access our PM system.
* Explanation/instructions on the changes from the upgrade if appropriate.

so that's the gist of my suggestion--A central place with the updated info to go with any forum tweaks or upgrades.... ttfn, Irish

PS to anyone who has additional ideas on this, please add them..


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