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Would a diamond chip as it is being taken out of an old setting?
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I took my great-grandmothers ring to be appraised so I could have the diamond taken out and put in an engagement ring for my girlfriend.

They had some difficulty prying the diamong out of the prongs and I really thought they were going to break something.

When they were looking at the stone they told me there was a chip, which they said had previously been concealed by a prong. I have no idea if this is plausible or if they did it as they were taking it out?

Does it matter a great deal? When it is being re-set for my girlfriend should they be able to cover the chip?

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Re: Would a diamond chip as it is being taken out of an old setting?
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Hmmmm?

Prying a diamond out of a setting is never a good idea.

Diamond rings and crowns should be cut apart if necesarry to spare any potential damage to a larger diamond.

Prying a diamond out of a setting presents a very real danger of damage.

In fairness, some settings present a difficult removal of a diamond, but all settings, even full bezels can and should be cut apart if necesarry.

Better to spare the diamond at the expense of the ring.

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Re: Would a diamond chip as it is being taken out of an old setting?
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They had some difficulty prying the diamong out of the prongs and I really thought they were going to break something.



If you thought that they were going to break something, then they were doing it incorrectly. There are a lot of ways to remove a diamond and Brian is absolutely right in say that cutting it out is best. If the prongs are big enough to see, then they should be "lifted" with the tool for that job. A sharp, new set of diagonal cutters will make a good lifter as well. This puts NO stress on the stone and is the way to do it if not cutting. If the stone is held in place with beads, then those beads MUST be cut off with a sharp graver, (a small chisel). Prying on any gemstone will place stress against an edge at its weakest point and can chip it fairly easily.

Does it matter ? Well you can't do anything now and it may have been done before, so what can you do ???? If the chip is small enough then it can be easily hidden with a prong, but I would avoid letting anyone set the stone who tried to pry it out. This is because hiding the chip means bending the prong down against a thinner, weakened area of the stone. Anyone who would pry a diamond out of a setting will not have the skill to set it properly without potentially chipping it further. Make sure that whoever sets the stone knows what they are doing and examine the stone yourself to make sure that no futher damage is done when it is set.


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Re: Would a diamond chip as it is being taken out of an old setting?
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Thanks for the advice Brian.

They already took it out and there is a chip. Is there any way of figuring out if the chip was there before or if they did it as they took it out? Would they be liable in some way if they did it?

Also, as I never plan on selling the diamond does it really matter? If the chip can be covered by a prong does it have any other implications for the aesthetics of the diamond?

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Re: Would a diamond chip as it is being taken out of an old setting?
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Thanks Michael, I didn't see your post when I reposted. I think that answers some of my questions.

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Re: Would a diamond chip as it is being taken out of an old setting?
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Wow Matt, I'm sorry your special diamond was so poorly treated.... pet rocks don't need that kind of aggravation ... find someone who respects the sentimentality, and value, of your stone...


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