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Are these measurements too small?
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Its a .91 SI1 H color Princess cut loose stone, with measurements of
5.18 x 4.98 good polish and sym. $3800. Do these measurements look like a .75 or a .9er? Thanks again.

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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Not really enough information, here. Depending on depth, crown percentage, crown angle, and girdle thickness, etc. the numbers given could be for a diamond anywhere from 0.60 to well over a carat. Princess cuts have huge variations.

Now, for a decent cut, upon which opinions vary, for those numbers I want about 0.75 carat.

With a little more input, I can give you a better answer.

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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Thanks capt. I don't have those specifics right now, but I'll get them tomorrow. I'm really just concerned if there are 1.00 carats that have those measurements....basically could it pass for a carat? I'll let you know the rest of the info tomorrow, thanks.

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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Ok, the depth is 80% and the table is 74%, and I believe it is 4.02 mml from table to bottom(forget the correct lingo. Hope this helps.

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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....basically could it pass for a carat?

John


This makes me have to ask . . . Who ya tryin' to fool, John? If you or the significant other wants a one carat, go find a one carat. You probably can find a one carat that's better than this 0.91 . . . and for less money.

Now to the diamond in question: The dimensions for this diamond indicate a cut that is, at best, wholly unremarkable. An 80.7% depth means you're paying for a lot of weight on the pavillion, weight you'll never see once the diamond is set. In fact, there's a very good chance such a deep pavillion, with a corresponding steep pavillion angle, makes this diamond look dark. At $3800, the price is just okay. With a little homework, you could find this same diamond for $3200 or so. And that's assuming it has a GIA or AGS grading report. With out the report, it should sell for quite a bit less.

My $0.02, keep looking. You've got some of the best resources in the industry right here at your fingertips. Why not start with one of the forum vendors?


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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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Ah David I was just linking your stone...You beat me!!

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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Yo, Grease,

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/156.html

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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Hey John,
Stephenmakes some great points.
As I was looking at this thread, I went to a thread we posted for comparison. There is a 1.00 J/SI1- it measures 5.62 x 5.49 x 4.01
The diamond you are looking at, with an 80% depth ratio is going to look more like a .75

If you' like to look at the J/SI1

Does the diamond you were looking at have a GIA report?



Now that's a little more like it. Nice diamond, great price. Really great price. Buy that diamond, take your other $825 and spend it on a nice romantic weekend to ask the question. Truly a win/win.

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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That stone is quite deep and so therefore looks small for the weight. Also you won't have a known light performance on the diamond just going by a couple of numbers like depth and table. For an example you will see that this .91 ct. SI1 F is measuring more like a 1.00 ct. range with top light performance.

http://www.diamondring.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=60326

This stone runs a little more because it is an F color versus an H, but the look is much larger and brighter. Also if you were going for price, there is a beautiful VS1 E .80 ct. that is measuring similar but slightly larger but again well cut and runs less than the SI1 H that you mentioned above. So higher, color, higher clarity, well cut and costs alot less.

http://www.diamondring.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=60327


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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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Wow you guys, all of these stones are awesome...

Gee Grease, if you're really serious about buying something.. you have a few to pick from..

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Re: Are these measurements too small?
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I don't remember ever seeing a princess cut stone in a 1 ct. size that was $2975. I bet it is beautiful too.

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