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Quote this post and reply to it Post#1 @ 06-09-03 , 08:44 PM


Hello everyone...I'm new here at DT. I've been researching diamonds, well more correctly, researching how to properly purchase one. I've narrowed my search down to:
dirtcheapdiamonds, DBOF, Whiteflash and Superbcert/Abazias...and maybe GOG. I know the specs for the stone that I want and I a couple on Whiteflash that are EGL certified. I'm just wondering if it's 'safe' (for lack of a better word) to consider diamonds with an EGL cert or should I stick with GIA/AGS certified diamonds? Thanks everyone - the info on this site has helped so much.

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I would recommend purchasing diamonds accompanied by GIA or AGS grading certificates, in that order, since these gem labs are known to be more accurate as well as consistent in the grades they award.

Basically, I believe dealers send their lesser goods to EGL in order that they recieve higher grades than would be issued by GIA or AGS.

By the way, none of the reputable gem labs "certify" diamonds; they merely issue "diamond grading reports" which are OPINIONS rather than guarantees or appraisels.

The paper they issue is known in the trade as a "cert" which is short for certificate NOT certification.

I would hesitate to purchase a stone from any vendor who implies that he sells stones which are "certified" by a reputable lab, which is a form of misrepresentation, since there are no such diamonds.

Good luck and happy hunting.




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GIA and AGS are the most accurate and consistent grading labs around.

I second Oldsalt's recommendation to you. Stick with either one.
EGL labs are inconsistent and their color/clarity grades can be off by
1 or 2. In addition to the "cert" ask your vendor if he can provide you with more detailed information such as a sarin or megaScope report which will
detail the "Cut" of the diamond.
The GIA cert does not report cut data at all whereas the AGS report will
give you a diagram in the upper right-hand corner that provides information
on the table%, crown angle and height,
depth, and girdle. These numbers are
AVERAGES ONLY and don't tell you anything about the individual facets.
That's where a detailed sarin or megascope report will be of value to you.

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If you are genuinely interested in the diamond, let them know that you're willing to purchase right after they get the GIA cert.

It takes about 2-3 weeks for them to send it to GIA for a cert.

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Thanks for the replies!

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If you are genuinely interested in the diamond, let them know that you're willing to purchase right after they get the GIA cert...


Does it cost myself or the broker anything to get a GIA report for a diamond? And once the report comes back, if I'm not satisfied with any new...information on the stone, can I say no?

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Re: EGL...should I consider it?
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If you want to be "safe," stick with GIA. Their reports are honest, unbiased, and accurate. There is a reason they have the best reputation in the industry--their grading standards are very strict. With such a big purchase, I don't think it's worth risking going with any other lab.

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