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I have been looking at this one particular radiant cut diamond with the following measurements

5.40x5.00x3.98mm
depth: 79.6%
table: 62%

I am not too familiar with radiant cut proportions as most of my research before was on the round brilliant.

Can anyone tell me the quality of this cut? Too shallow, too deep, whatever. My main concern is if it is going to make the diamond look too bad. Otherwise, the diamond is D color and SI1 clarity and is a steal, so I'm hoping this is okay.

Please help!

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Fancy shapes are very difficult to assess purely on the numbers.
Various combinations of table/Crown/pavillion are capable of
delivering a high light output stone.
You need to provide more numbers for
me to even begin to get an indication.
Ask your vendor if he can supply you with a sarin analysis or megascope
report that will give cut measurements.
This would be a good start.

As far as this radiant being a "steal",
be very careful. As they used to say in the old country, "You got it what you paid".

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Just to add another point:

The conventional wisdom, today, states that in fancy shapes you can only get a high-light output stone if it is square or squarish. Absolutely not true.
Rectangular shapes can also be high light output performers. It is a bit more difficult, but it's all
about facet angle, placement, and size.
Based on my research, I have been able
to cut Rectangular Princess Cuts
that display high light-output
and minimal light leakage as indicated
by the BrillianceScope and ImageScope.
Again, don't let "numbers" throw you off.

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Thanks guys. I dont have any other numbers right now, but ill try to get them soon. You guys were a great help!

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Let us know.

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"At least you are looking at a squarish stone - the longer stones are not that great as a rule."

unless you prefer long to square. DUH!

in otherwords, self-appointed cut experts are full of it.

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David,

I agree with you, personal preference is definitely most important. I believe what Garry was trying to say was that by noticing the radiant was nearly square, that that indicated, somewhat, the quality of the cut itself, not its aesthetic appeal.

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and from when I was looking at them, this depth seems like it's too deep. Radiants loose a lot of the "sparkle" when they get that deep. (I too found a "steal" at 72% depth, but when compared to the one I bought at 62% depth, they were night and day.)

I'm not a professional though, just a professional "looker"!

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Quote this post and reply to it Post#9 @ 05-28-03 , 10:16 AM


TOOOOO DEEEEEPPPPPP. STAY AWAY!!!!! I know we can't play only by the numbers game, but that is not a well cut stone. It is MUCH too deep. Take it from one who knows. Not only can the stone look dark in the center, but it will look MUCH SMALLER than stones of the same carat weight that are cut well. I have a 79depth princess and in terms of MMs, it's more like a 1.4 instead of a 1.77. It was a bad decision that I deal with...but don't make the same mistake.

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