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today I was in a local jewelry store picking up my earrings (screw on post put on). A policeman was on a telephone telling someone about "this diamond". He sounded pissed. He mentioned " I color, SI1" Just by natural instinct, I said to the man helping me, "Oooh, I would never buy that." Just then a woman behind me said it was her ring!!! She then asked me what I thought was good. I replied, "Well, for me it would depend on what the stone was in." She went over to the policeman and starting talking to him, her hubby I assumed. The clerk that was waiting on me said don't worry, she has already bought the stone. I felt awful!! He tried to make me feel better - but I'm sure he could have slapped me silly!

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Why would you "never buy that"? You knew nothing else about the stone?


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Quote this post and reply to it Post#3 @ 04-14-03 , 08:28 PM


I agree I have no idea why you said that. "I" is well within near colorless and a lot of SI1s are 100% eyeclean.

I don't get it.

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Quote this post and reply to it Post#4 @ 04-14-03 , 08:37 PM


I have a lovely stone SI1 G/H colour. It is eye clean, sparkles like crazy and finding any inclusions with my 10x loupe is, at best, difficult. I couldn't be happier.

A friend of mine has a SI2 D colour and the clarity isn't an issue because it's a very well cut stone.

I think each stone has to be judged on the basis of it's appearance. There are some lovely I coloured SI1 stones out there.

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I have to agree. Many SI stones are lovely. I'm sure you didn't mean to upset anyone; you just forgot to put on your "jewelry censor button"! I personally would not buy a diamond with a clarity of I, but I have even heard of I1's being eye clean unless closely inspected. So, who knows!

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I have ALMOST put my one remaining foot in my mouth several times at my friendly, local jewelery store where I get many of my watches. I reefered to Rolex as a "second tier" company when discussing Jaegers and Pateks with the salesmen. Fortunately the customers looking at the Rolexes didn't hear me.

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Quote this post and reply to it Post#7 @ 04-14-03 , 10:01 PM


Since you didn't mean any harm, I wouldn't slash my wrists if I were you.

At times, I have been present when a complete stranger asked me what I thought of a diamond that they were considering, and I always tell them what I believed; whether it was a good buy, a poor stone, or f it was overpriced.

When my fiancee was picking out the semi mount for her stone, she asked several ladies which one they preferred.

They all liked one other than I had selected. Naturally that's the one we bought.

I wasn't upset in the least.




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I find nothing wrong with an I color SI1 clarity. You're buying the diamond for how it looks, not how the high the numbers are.

Some people with really sensitive eyes might find an I too low on the color scale, but other than that I don't see why you would be against it.


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The issue here isn't whether someone would or would not buy an I, SI1 diamond or a Rolex watch. It's how people react when presented with various opinions in an emotional purchase situation.

I have chirped up in the watch shop (where they have the dubious pleasure of knowing me quite well) when wearing a watch brand that someone else was constipating, saying "I like mine..." and showing it to them. I do not intervene if I cannot make a positive contribution. If someone wants to buy one of that store's grossly overpriced and underperforming diamonds, I mind my own business. Sure I'd love to whip out the I.S. and "help" them, but that's not appropriate, IMHO.

It WAS fun, however, to watch the sales staff check their diamonds (both store stock and on their hands) with the I.S. A few jaws dropped!


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Everyone has their limits. I personally would not want a large carat engagement ring I color. SI1, I could live with, if the stone looked great. I simply blurted out my personal reaction. And I should not have. The ring was already purchsed and I was not asked for an opinion. This was a small store where I feel comfortable and know the owners, so I guess my guard was down. We were all discussing jewelry and diamonds when this happened. I will be more careful in the future, but I still stand by my personal ideals.

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If you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say anything at all!

While Im sure, Bethann, that you didn't mean to hurt this woman's feelings, Im sure your comments have tainted this purchase somewhat. An I-colored stone is still in the near colorless category and a good SI1 can be a perfectly eye clean stone! Without seeing its cut and all the other factors which contribute to the beauty (or lack thereof) of this particular stone, I felt that comment sounded very snobbish.

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Awww, heck, we've all said or done something like that - the comment or action we mull over for a few hours or days thinking 'if only I had...' S'ok. There's nothing wrong with making a quiet comment to your own salesperson about other stones, but I'm sure you learned the lesson about just HOW QUIET those comments need to be. Take the lesson and move on.

(and for the record, bethann, I'm with you - SI-1 would be ok, like you said, if it looked great, but I personally would never get the I color either...I LOVE the crispness of the D-E-F's )


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It was probably meant as harmless but we all needto be careful of what we say about others jewlery, not many people are educated about what to buy and many just want something beautiful. Many diamonds wit h the above specs are beautiful and many women are proud to wear them.Not everone has the money or even desire to have a stone with certain specs. I have had someone tell me to my face (coworker) they like my stone but want a colorless one but then I laughed when she said to get one she has to use her home downpayment money. To each his own Iam sure ou meant no harm its hard when you love pretty things but we have to be careful. I just usually say its nice and if its hideuous i keep mouth shut

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Well, the harm you may have done depends on what effect you had on the people who heard your remark.

If the couple knew exactly what they were buying and why, then you probably did no harm. If they didn't and took your disparaging remark at face value, it could have caused untold damage.

I have a 2ct I, SI2 and it's an old cut stone too. Disaster, I hear you think. Not at all. It's a beautiful stone. Just because you wouldn't agree with me, doesn't affect my appreciation of my diamond because I know what I've got and I'm confident in my choice. Sadly, not everyone is in that happy position.

So my advice is 'Keep you thoughts to yourself, unless they're complimentary'


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To each their own. Everybody has different preferences.

Personally, I like diamonds in the H-I range. To me, these stones are beautiful.

Design-wise and craftsmanship, I like Tiffany and Cartier. These are the only pieces I wear. Does this make me a snob? Maybe.


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Don't beat yourself up about it. It's not like you knew the owners of the stone were standing there. THAT would have been an ugly thing to do.

What really bugs me is when jewelers make those sorts of comments to me about my stones (that I didn't buy from them, of course). When I was looking for a new mounting, I took my diamonds to several local jewelers and got a wide variety of treatment. One even had the nerve to say that my center stone (I1 light golden champagne pear 2.06 ct.) "Sure ain't very good quality." I know that I have lesser quality stones, but they make me happy and they look pretty darn impressive to 99.9% of the people who see them.


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OOOOPS! Yikes! But what can you do, you realized your faux pas...and honestly you didn't see the diamond and it may have been lovely. I wouldn't worry about the couple...if it is the right piece for them, they will take your comment with a grain of salt and be happy with their purchase. If not, I'm hoping the store has an upgrade policy? The fact you are a well-known customer may not have been the only reason the storeowner wasn't upset...he probably encourages an upgrade.

I wonder why the guy on the phone sounded angry? Or maybe he was an annoying loud-cellphone-talker?

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I don't see anything wrong with your stating your preference of diamonds. Especially to the salesperson, then he would never show you any I SI1 diamonds!

It's not a big difference than if I say that I would never wear Versace or eat black licorice. It's nothing bad or good it's just not my taste.

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I just re-read my first post and I do sound a bit preachy Sorry.

We've all done it. Opened our mouth and then put our foot in it. I know I have. Too often. Never mind - life's too short to beat ourselves up over every little mistake we make. If we were perfect, we wouldn't be human, we'd be angels.


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empresseva, nothing wrong with being a snob. I know I am.

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