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Post#1 @
12-02-02
, 03:50 PM
I am just curious as to whether or not anyone has ever had their diamond recut? I know people have their diamonds recut when they are damaged, however has anyone ever had a stone they owned recut just to have a more brillant stone? If you did, what was the outcome? Did the stone come out better than it previously was? What was the weight loss in doing this? How much did it cost to have it done? |
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Post#2 @
12-02-02
, 07:15 PM
Hi Googleman, Thats a very interesting question! But there are some risks involved in the cutting process. Weight loss can vary, and in the worst case scenario, your diamond can break in pieces during the cutting process. Kirk |
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Post#3 @
12-02-02
, 08:04 PM
Kirk: Thanks for your reply. I did not realize the process could destroy the diamond! I am a horse owner and equestrian, so I guess I can relate the whole diamond thing to that. Either you go out and buy an expensive, well trained horse and know how it behaves and have a good indication of how it will perform in the show ring or you can save a few bucks, buy a green horse, put a lot of money into training and not really know what the end result would be! |
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Post#4 @
12-02-02
, 08:18 PM
I just had my diamond recut and there were no problems at all. I started with a rather poor stone. 2.08 L SI2 with an average cut that did not help the color or clarity at all. I Had it recut by Eightstar and it is an extremely nice diamond. The brilliance and fire completely mask the inclusions and I know it sounds cliche but the color in the face up view is as good as any H I have ever seen. Now granted I have not seen many diamonds (25 or so) and they may have actualy been showing a m representing it as a H. The point is recutting alowed me to go down in color and clarity and up in size. Plus with the eightstar cut I get the excellent brilliance and fire. I am certain that many of the super ideal diamonds in the world have ben recut. I was never worried about my diamond being destroyed because Many eightstars are recuts. The cutters know what they are doing. I like the Horse analogy but you know better than most that a horse has a mind and a personality. It can do what it wants if so inclined. A diamond can only do what the cutter makes it. |
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Post#5 @
12-02-02
, 08:19 PM
By the way, the diamond ended up 1.73 carats, 7.88mm, and scored a .4 on the HCA. Chris |
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Post#6 @
12-02-02
, 08:23 PM
Hi Googleman, Diamonds can and do break on occasion during the cutting process. I'm sure every cutter has a story or two, regarding the unfortunate parting or cleaving of their beloved diamonds. In most cases consumers like yourself must sign a waiver dismissing any damages incured during the cutting process. And in some cases, you may not be completely satisfied with the results, especially if your a cut geek. So if a cutter tells you about the blood, sweat and tears going into the cutting process. Than I'm sure that the possibility of damaging the diamond must account for a tear or two. Kirk |
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Post#7 @
12-02-02
, 08:32 PM
RacerX, How did you come to know this information (that many 8*'s are recuts)? |
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Post#8 @
12-02-02
, 09:03 PM
DB I got that from listening to the dealers here on diamond talk. They are given the option when becomming dealers to send in some of their diamonds for recutting. At least that is what I heard from them here. Chris |
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Post#9 @
12-02-02
, 09:27 PM
When becoming a Eightstar dealer you are offered to have a few of your own diamonds recut, this would save you thousands of dollars building your inventory of Eightstars. You of course need to buy from their inventory as well. I have also had three customer recuts done in the last couple years with Eightstar. Each one has been a very pleasant experience and the end results speak for themselves. Simply brilliant 
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Post#10 @
12-02-02
, 09:42 PM
Hey Racer, do you mind if I ask how much 8 star charged to recut your diamond? Rich |
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Post#11 @
12-02-02
, 11:29 PM
Rich I guess a good smart ass answer would be, no I dont mind. But since nobody loves a smart ass. I quess I'll stick with the cliche "email richard and he will probably help you himself. He is a great man and is very easy to deal with." That said I would but for reasons beond my feeble mind they do not want prices broadcast over the net. Sorry I couldnt be of any help to ya. Chris |
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Post#12 @
12-03-02
, 07:23 AM
Heh heh heh. Thanks Racer. From what I understand, it takes EightStar about a working week to cut one of their diamonds (32 hours?), whereas the average diamond usually takes less than a working day. Fascinating. Rich |
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Post#13 @
12-03-02
, 07:28 AM
Just out of curiousity - how does the value of your re-cut eightstar diamond compare to the original? Have you been able to cover your cutting expenses from any increase in value? What do they do with the bits that get cut off? |
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Post#14 @
12-03-02
, 09:51 AM
If it takes Eightstar an entire week to cut one diamond, I am guessing that the process of getting a diamond recut would be pretty expensive! |
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Don't be too afraid of your diamond shattering...
Post#15 @
12-03-02
, 10:45 AM
Given that your existing diamond has already survived the cutting process once and has survived the intense pressure when it was formed deep within the earth millions of years ago and the trauma of making it to the surface, it is not very common for recuts to break on the wheel. Yes it does happen sometimes, but in all the diamonds I've ever had recut, it's only happened to me once. Sometimes there are certain features, such as internal graining, that might make you choose not to attempt a recut, and those are things that the diamond cutter can advise you on. You might check with your insurance agent to see if something like this might be covered, and then you'd have all the bases covered. Jay |
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Post#16 @
12-03-02
, 12:54 PM
Indi Thanks for asking. I am probably going to look like a fool in a few of the diamond talk regulars eyes but my stake on the matter is simply "I dont know" From the start value after purchase was never an issue for me. I think I bought a large enough diamond that she will never want to trade up. The second largest diamond in her family or mine for that matter is just above one carat. Also luckily for me she is the type of girl who would have married me with a ring pop.(you know those plastic rings with cherry suckers on top lol) I am sure I am wrong financially but I never considered a ring and diamond purchase even close to an investment. OK now that I got that out of my system, I checked around while her diamond was being cut. I was not able to find a diamond with the same specs as my girlfriends but the closest to it were priced very close to mine. So I must have done OK pricewise. I dont like to give advice but I would say that if you are considering buying a diamond ring for your girl make sure the price does not bother you and while I sugest doing everything you can to make sure you get what you paid for dont harp on what the value will be down the road. After all its not going to be yours to sell. |
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Racerx151
Post#17 @
12-04-02
, 04:22 AM
Thank you for your response - that's a good attitude! As a woman I am not sure I can be that generous but I am sure glad that my fiance sees things like you. We are picking up my e-ring today and unlike many men, he said that I should get the diamond based on what I liked and not worry about budget! Being a woman I tried to get a good diamond but used all the tips on DT to make sure that we bought from a good dealer and not the "maul". As for your finace being happy with a pop ring - that was the same with me! He proposed to me with a homemade ring made from a keyring hoop threaded together with some homemade clay carrots...symbolic of diamond carats. I will treasure that ring even more than the expensive diamond one its just that the latter is less fragile and wearable! |
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Post#18 @
12-04-02
, 01:39 PM
Indi He's a good man in my book. Congrats to you. Chris |
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Re: Anyone ever had their diamond recut?
I have my old engagement ring in which I’m looking to sell. It is a little over a karat but has an imperfection. I was told by 2 jewelers’ that its right next to the prong and was probably done when the center stone was put in. I believe my best option is to have it re-cut to have the imperfection go away however I don’t even know where to start this process. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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