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ring size bigger than specified size.
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Hi,

I bought a platinum engagement ring and signed off on the size which has been documented. When it came back it was 1/2 a size bigger than the specified size.

What would be the standard resolution for this kind of problem?

Remake so that the ring is still flawless?
Cut rejoin? possibly the solder join will tarnish quicker?
place a bead?
Eat buckets of KFC so to grow into the ring.

Would it be unreasonable to be unhappy that the ring has to be modified considering so much care was taken to select the size in the first place?

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Re: ring size bigger than specified size.
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Hi,

I bought a platinum engagement ring and signed off on the size which has been documented. When it came back it was 1/2 a size bigger than the specified size.

What would be the standard resolution for this kind of problem?

Remake so that the ring is still flawless?
Cut rejoin? possibly the solder join will tarnish quicker?
place a bead?
Eat buckets of KFC so to grow into the ring.

Would it be unreasonable to be unhappy that the ring has to be modified considering so much care was taken to select the size in the first place?



Hi & welcome avocadobaby,


Sorry to hear about the ring not being the correct size.

Did the seller of the ring measure your finger?


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Re: ring size bigger than specified size.
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I vote for the KFC approach. This will take care of the ring size and reduce wrinkles as one ages. I've been using it for years and it really works.

If you don't want to do that, then I would just have it resized and forget about it. If there are no stones near the area used for resizing AND you have a person competent in platinum soldering do the work, then you will never know that it has been sized. The problem with many platinum sizing jobs is that the person doing the work will use a white gold solder and when they do the polishing the solder joint will erode slightly leaving a line where it was done. Quality soldering in platinum is done at very high temperatures, (so no stones nearby), and with solders which are high in platinum and very close to the platinum in it's material properties. This produces an invisible joint which will never tarnish. Make sure that the craftsperson doing the work will do it this way and you're good to go.


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Re: ring size bigger than specified size.
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Did the seller of the ring measure your finger?
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Hi brian, yes, the seller measured the finger and we agreed to the size in writing (signiture next to size)

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If there are no stones near the area used for resizing

There are pave diamonds starting at about half way up the band on either side. Is half way far away enough from the bottom of the ring to avoid whatever it is you would be worried about? (heat shock?)

Thanks for the advice, Do you think there would be any advantages of doing a bead? or is there no difference.

Also if i'm getting wedding bands made as well, wouldn't the band not match the resized ring?

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Re: ring size bigger than specified size.
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Hi avocado baby..

This is really saddening, don't worry we'll find a way..
Recently, I came across with this thread that talks about 'ring adjustments' and I'm not sure if you'll consider that...

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Just for example, how would you handle this situation?
Can a buyer get a (1/2) or (1/4)refund... or discount on the next purchased item? What do you think?

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Re: ring size bigger than specified size.
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Hi brian, yes, the seller measured the finger and we agreed to the size in writing (signiture next to size)


There are pave diamonds starting at about half way up the band on either side. Is half way far away enough from the bottom of the ring to avoid whatever it is you would be worried about? (heat shock?)

Thanks for the advice, Do you think there would be any advantages of doing a bead? or is there no difference.

Also if i'm getting wedding bands made as well, wouldn't the band not match the resized ring?


That should be far enough away for the small diamonds. The problem is not heat shock, but just heat, as the heat required is so intense that you can't protect them with flux and they will be burned. Being halfway down the band keep the flame from directly impacting them and a good craftsperson can do the solder fast enough that heat transfer through the metal will not be a problem.

Beads are probably your best option, since they will take up some room, keep the ring from spinning and are easily removed should you need a little more room later.

Removing enough material to make your ring 1/2 size smaller would not be noticeable when wearing another ring against it.

I hope that helps !


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Re: ring size bigger than specified size.
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Beads are probably your best option, since they will take up some room, keep the ring from spinning and are easily removed should you need a little more room later.


Michael, this option sounds like it makes most sense, I think I'll do that.

thanks for your help.

oh, is there any chance of burning diamonds with this option? If so what do I look out for when i'm looking at the modified ring? will the diamonds be black/cracked? or is only something you notice after time when the diamond disintegrates into powder one day.

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Michael, this option sounds like it makes most sense, I think I'll do that.

thanks for your help.

oh, is there any chance of burning diamonds with this option? If so what do I look out for when i'm looking at the modified ring? will the diamonds be black/cracked? or is only something you notice after time when the diamond disintegrates into powder one day.


The chances of burning a diamond while installing sizing beads is almost nil. If the craftsman is experienced they will have the diamonds well covered with molten flux and use a white gold solder to install the beads. This all happens at relatively low temperatures and so the diamonds will be unaffected. It will cover any engravings that are on the inside of the ring however. Burned diamonds have frosty looking surfaces, sometimes the frosting is kind of spotty if they've been partially covered by flux. It makes them look dirty until you look at them under magnification and them it's obvious what's going on.

The sizing beads should be installed in pairs and at about 45 degrees on each side of the bottom of the ring. They should be flattened, smooth and polished so that you should not really notice them while wearing the ring. I think that they'll work out well for you.


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Wanted to add that if the rings have thick and/or wide bands than the half size larger will work out well because the finger tends to get squeezed in both directions with wide or thick bands.
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Re: ring size bigger than specified size.
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The sizing beads should be installed in pairs and at about 45 degrees on each side of the bottom of the ring. They should be flattened, smooth and polished so that you should not really notice them while wearing the ring. I think that they'll work out well for you.


When you are adding beads how do you know how much to add? is there a formula to work it out. Do you use a sizing stick still?

If the inside diameter is H1/2 and you want to get to H
size H is: 0.586 '' (14.88mm)
size H1/2 0.594 '' (15.09mm)

The difference is .008'' (0.21mm)

Do you then just add .008'' (0.21mm) sized beads? or do you have to compensate for the spongyness of the finger and the fact that they are just beads.

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tada. Check out the KFC chicken wing sized lady lump.

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When you are adding beads how do you know how much to add? is there a formula to work it out. Do you use a sizing stick still?

If the inside diameter is H1/2 and you want to get to H
size H is: 0.586 '' (14.88mm)
size H1/2 0.594 '' (15.09mm)

The difference is .008'' (0.21mm)

Do you then just add .008'' (0.21mm) sized beads? or do you have to compensate for the spongyness of the finger and the fact that they are just beads.



Not so sure about the answer to that... but I did do the math on adding the new KFC "Double Down" sandwich to your diet.

From my calculations, after adding two Double Downs to your weekly diet we would be able to remove that pesky sizing bump in 3.5 weeks.


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tada. Check out the KFC chicken wing sized lady lump.


Hey avacadobaby, I'd advise taking that one lumper back and have them do it a little better. That thing is huge and it's going to start to hurt if you're grabbing things with that hand. I would advise two lumps being 1/2 that thickness and spaced off to the sides to the finger as shown with these red arrows. Being smaller and spaced apart would give the same effect of keeping the ring from turning over and also keep you from feeling it when grabbing something.


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That's a beautiful ring you have there, otherwise i place my bid on the stuffing yourself with KFC.lol.


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That's a beautiful ring you have there

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At the risk of sounding like goldilocks in the case of the porridge that was never right... boy that ring sure is snug now (I can't wait till summer). I swear there has been no KFC involved! It doesn't spin anymore, but it probably will require knuckle reduction surgery and a bit of chicken grease.... wheres that double down sandwhich?

We'll give it a couple more days, but I might go back to the question: is there a way to measure/guess how much lumpage to add? or is it a case of how long is a peice of string? shave a bit and hope... then if its not quite right shave a bit again.

The jeweller probably didn't want to cover the engraved codes. they have no sentimental value, but thats my guess anyway. The concept of a double bumper sounds more comfortable.

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