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depth table concerns
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Hello,
I have been shown two diamonds. they seem to have all of the features i would like and are within my price range but i am concerned about the depth table #'s b/c they are on the higher end of what i've been reading is acceptable.
1 carat princess F VS1 VG cut 66 depth 79 table $4600
1 carat princess f vs2 good cut 72 depth 78 table $4250

these prices compare favorable vs. most online sites i've looked at but im not sure how the depth and table #'s play into the price, am i geting a good deal?

if i have to sacrifice something between cut, color, clarity and the depth and table dimensions does it make the most sense to sacrifice on the depth table diminesnion?

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Re: depth table concerns
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am i geting a good deal?

if i have to sacrifice something between cut, color, clarity and the depth and table dimensions does it make the most sense to sacrifice on the depth table diminesnion?


You will have no idea whether you are getting a good deal until you actually hold the diamond in your hand. Making decisions based on just a couple of dimensions like table width and total depth percentage is like choosing a car based on the size of it's wheels...it's just not enough information to make an adequate decision. If you're buying on-line you absolutely NEED to be able to talk to someone who will be able to look at the diamonds you are considering and give you an HONEST description of the way they look.

Depth and table dimensions are part of the cut of a gem and so have to be taken along with all of the other dimensional characteristics which make up the cut quality of the stone. They can't be taken to mean anything by themselves, but are only meaningful as PART of the information that is REQUIRED to get an accurate idea of cut, without actually looking at the stone.


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Hello,
I have been shown two diamonds. they seem to have all of the features i would like and are within my price range but i am concerned about the depth table #'s b/c they are on the higher end of what i've been reading is acceptable.
1 carat princess F VS1 VG cut 66 depth 79 table $4600
1 carat princess f vs2 good cut 72 depth 78 table $4250

these prices compare favorable vs. most online sites i've looked at but im not sure how the depth and table #'s play into the price, am i geting a good deal?

if i have to sacrifice something between cut, color, clarity and the depth and table dimensions does it make the most sense to sacrifice on the depth table diminesnion?



Do the stones have a GIA lab report? First and foremost I would make sure the stones have a GIA lab report first. 2nd the most important factor in buying a diamond is the cut grade on the diamond. That is what will make the stone sparkle or not. With a larger table, it generally comes with a lower crown height which will also more than likely affect the light return.
There is an example of light return analysis on this stone if you click on the live report link.

http://www.diamondring.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=87319

This one is a real sparkler.


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Re: depth table concerns
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Do the stones have a GIA lab report? First and foremost I would make sure the stones have a GIA lab report first. 2nd the most important factor in buying a diamond is the cut grade on the diamond. That is what will make the stone sparkle or not. With a larger table, it generally comes with a lower crown height which will also more than likely affect the light return.
There is an example of light return analysis on this stone if you click on the live report link.

http://www.diamondring.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=87319

This one is a real sparkler.


it has a gia report but i had heard that they don't certify the cut for princess's so how do i actually know how good the cut is other than taking the jewler's word for it? Is there a noticeable difference between good and very good cuts?

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Re: depth table concerns
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There is more to it than table and depth in judging the cut of a princess cut diamond.

Light return is key to how the diamond will sparkle to the eye. Paper can`t express this, and neither will table and depth alone, or any other external perimeters on their own.

There can be a noticeable difference in what one jeweler calls good or verygood cut compared to others. Could be his personal preference even for large tables and spready makes. That doesn`t mean it will be the brightest diamond. Where is the proof ? Can you see the difference? This is what you need to compare.


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