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Seeking the impossible...........2.70 +-cwt, clean white priced right for some green. Doers please respond.

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Hello Salvatore,
Welcome to DiamondRing. You'll need to give us a few more details in order for us to respond....
Shape ? round, princess, marquise, etc...
Color ? "white" can be anywhere from D-I even up to J
Clarity ? "clean" can be FL-SI2...

So you need to be a tad bit more specific.

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Seeking: Round Brilliant, G/H, SI1+, 2.60+- cwt, Good proportions...........lik e a stone with a lot of fire and life!

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We have something in that range that I sent you some details on.


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Hi, Salvatore...

I thought I'd just jump in here to suggest that if it turns out that what you're looking for is over your budget, you might consider coming down a bit in color/clarity.

I think one can be a lot more forgiving when considering diamonds for earrings than one would normally be for diamonds in a ring.

Some time ago I purchased some studs from one of the vendors here. Because he found some diamonds that were very well cut, I ended up with a STUNNING pair that were white, bright, beautiful, and unbelievably...I-1s!!

I was astonished how really nice well cut "included" diamonds can be. I put "included" in quotes, because I certainly can't see any inclusions when they are being worn...I can only see "bling"...and even upon close scrutiny, they're hard to find.

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Wiget,
Thank you for the useful information.
Unfortunately, I have not been able to find a super deal. I have received several quotes but I find them closer to retail then 30 or so back of Rap. If I can't buy them right I will wait for awhile (and or reduce my quality desires as you mentioned but only as a last resort). Can't put myself in buying retail.
Any other suggestions from anyone would be greatly appreciated. The stones will be bought between now and Christmas. If the right deal comes up I can pull the trigger real quick. The money is sitting in the bank receiving 2+% interest. Currently I rather have the stones. Thank you again for all your time in this matter.Cheers, Salvatore

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Sorry for misspelling your name in the earlier tread.

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If you do find any ideal cut 1.30-1.39 cts at -30 with G.I.A or A.G.S. lab reports I`ll take all available.

These type of stones are not trading for that around the rest of the world even if you drop a mill on the table


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Oh except on e-bay where stones are 3-4 grades off if your lucky


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Brad,
Thank you for the information. You mentioned you couldn't get a ideal cut -30 (Rap) with a G.I.A. or A.G.S. certificate. Can you get the above with a E.G.L. certificate? Would you rate the following as a Ideal cut (round brilliant,1.29, 61.1 depth, 58.9 table,34.5 deg crown ang.,42.9% pav depth, VG/VG, no on the Culet.
At what price scale in relationship to Rap can one buy using the three mentioned above labs?
I await your response to the above.
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Hi Salvatore,

Welcome to the forum.

Brad is correct that ideal cut AGS or GIA RBC's in the 1.30 1.39 range do not even wholesale for 30 back.

EGL, well thats a horse of a different color to quote the almighty Wizard of Oz.

I have a pair of 1.32 J/SI-2's zero's that I'll sell you for 15 back.

The problem when you start comparing other labs is where do you stop?

You start with the top two, AGS and GIA (basically the only two jewelers trust)

Then you throw EGL in the mix and then maybe BGL, Bubba's gem lab.

Point being, comparisons quickly become meaningless.

I mention this not to single you out in particular as this happens again and again to diamond shoppers in your position.

My advice would be to stick with AGS or GIA

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Hi Brian,
Thank you for your thread. According to the literature that I have been reading, EGL is the number one lab in the world in volume. Is this because of the geographical aspect (majority of the world, versus the USA) or is that they are not as strict? Many local dealers, graduate gemologists, etc. are using these reports. Today, I would not be happy in buying a stone that was GIA, due to the fact that their report is very limited, especially in comparrison to AGS.........which seems to the best in the states right now. Perhpas when GIA comes out with their new criteria would I consider using them Anyway, the whole process of buying becomes very complicated.............. it is not easy.
Met a dealer today at a flea market (this flea market attracts some heavy hitters) and the dealer was bascially saying what you and Brad was saying. Well, maybe the best thing for me to do is continue reading the treads and perhaps I can find something that fits my fancy.
Other than this I don't know what to say. As always I am open to suggestions.
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My two cents. You say EGL is the number one in volume - may be true, don't know, and don't care either way - it doesn't matter. By reputation AGS and GIA are number one and in most peoples opinion the only two labs that issue reports worth more than the paper they are printed on. Just because one company does a higher volume doesn't mean they are better.

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Loch,
Thank you for your comments. This whole thing is confusing................ ..certificate, no certificate, which lab, etc. Again, we have to go to trust...........knowing who you are dealing with.......someone to hold your hand while going thru the whole process. Well, I am still looking for that someone. Do you have any suggestions?
Again thank you for your thread.
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Here is something that I noted while reading Pricescope: More GIA diamonds are listed on the internet. IGI and EGL certified diamonds are common in stores; these labs bundle appraisal and grading services together. Appraisals go out of date, but unless the diamond is damaged, the cert is good forever. Store it in a safe place.

Internet Diamond Listings July 2004
GIA........72.9%
EGL........22.8%
AGS........2.5%
IGI........1.4%
HRD........0.4%
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Sorry I don't have any specific recommendations as to who to deal with, and I can't speak from personal experience as I never dealt with any of them myself, but I will say I've never heard anything negative about any DT vendors from other members.

In general I would advise you to find someone you are comfortable with and won't blow hot air. It's pretty easy to weed out the BSr's by asking questions and lots of them. Based on their answers it will reveal alot. It will give you a good idea how they do business, what type of person they are and most importantly their level of knowledge.

Below are some links to GIA and AGS sites. Both are a wealth of information. If I were you I'd spend some time on each and soak up as much info as possible! Browse around check out their history, f.a.q.'s, and newsroom. See what's been going on.

Here is a link to GIA official site (on the left hand side of the page just above the service center menu is the "How to buy a diamond tutorial". Give it a go and see how well you do.

Also here is the AGS site; they have a diamond buyers class which like GIAs' tutorial has great information. There is also the "ask an expert" function. Hopefully after you've checked out these two sites everything will be a little less confusing.

Above all go with your gut. If something doesn't seem right don't go through with it. Doubt means don't!

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Internet Diamond Listings July 2004
GIA........72.9%
EGL........22.8%
AGS........2.5%
IGI........1.4%
HRD........0.4%
Surprising?

I curious where you found this information.

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Hi Loch,
Thank you for taking the time to send me the useful informaton. I do appreciate it and will start on your suggestions immediately.
As for the information referencing the Internet Diamond Listings, it can be found at: http://diamonds.pricescope.com/ Hope this is helpful.
Thank you again,
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Hi Loch,
Thank you for all the interesting information.
I will look them up and go from there.
Please note where I received my information: http://diamonds.pricescope.com/ Again, thank you for your help.
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Loch,
Thank you for all your information and I look up the sites first chance. The site you asked about is:Click here: Diamond Grading Report (Certificate) Hope all is well.
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Sorry, try this. http://diamonds.pricescope.com/

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Sorry for the error, try this: http://diamonds.pricescope.com/

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http://diamonds.pricescope.com/

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Loch,
Go to Pricescopes web and and then go to Diamond Tutorial. For some reason this thread will not allow me to cut and past the address.
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